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After how many years?!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:39 am
by Cornel
In 1990 I submitted one of my first (and very few!) 2-movers to the 4th Bron Memorial in Ukraine: a 6-piece miniature realizing what I believe is called the "French-Soviet" theme (most probably the "Letztform"). I have never received a response or the tourney award, and over the years I tried many times to find out what happened with my problem, without luck. I could not find it in any database, and all my contacts had been unable to shed any light. At one point I considered publishing the problem elsewhere, as I thought, with my very limited expertise in the 2-movers field (I only composed and published a total of 8 mate in two problems, 5 being awarded), that it is a neat miniature, but I did not want to make a common mistake and end up with the problem being published twice (my gut had been still telling me all along that the problem was both received and considered for the tourney).

A few hours ago I checked (not for the first time!) the online "Yet another chess problem database" and, to my surprise, I've found my lost problem! It was added to YACPDB on July 24, 2009, from Klaus-Peter Zuncke Miniatures Database: http://dt.dewia.com/yacpdb/?id=151035. Of course, also finding out that the problem had received the 2nd-4th Prize was a sweet consolation! However, 19 years have passed since I sent the problem to the tourney director, and 18 and a half years have passed since the award was published (Westnik problemista, February 13th, 1991)! This might not be a record in itself, but at the same time I think that is not something unheard of, in contrary, it may very well happen more often than we think or it should, thus my open question to you is what was in your case the longest gap between the moment you sent a problem to a formal or informal tournament and the moment you actually found out that the problem was published and (eventually) awarded?!

Re: After how many years?!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:10 pm
by apfde
Now the Miniaturensammlung of Klaus-Peter Zuncke is published also in the PDB and you may find your problem there, e.g. with http://www.softdecc.com/pdb/search.pdb? ... 'P1153370'.

Re: After how many years?!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:47 am
by AlphaSleuth
@Cornel -- Hope it's not too late to say: Congrats! :-)

In 1992, I sent a reasonably good h#2 to The Problemist. Never got confirmation of receipt or publication. And, honestly, over time I completely forgot about it.

In 1998, I was perusing my personal collection (stored in PDB software), and came upon this 'lost' problem. I contacted Chris Feather asking if he could verify whether it had ever been published. It had and, to my surprise, even won 3rd Prize!

http://www.softdecc.com/pdb/search.pdb? ... 'P0539257'

Roughly 6 years "lag time". Not a record, but it was worth the wait. :-)

Re: After how many years?!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:37 pm
by AlphaSleuth
Actually, the above account is incorrect! I should only write these things after getting some sleep. :-)

Some time after my SG editing stint (~2004-2006 timeframe), I was browsing the online PDB and noticed that the above problem had gotten 3rd Prize. This surprised me because I wasn't sure it had ever been published! That was confirmed by my database comments.

I then wrote to CJF asking if it really did get 3rd Prize. He confirmed that it had.

So... the real "lag time" was ~12-14 years. But that was purely the fault of the composer. :-)